A Daring Raid on a Monsanto Stronghold

Yesterday I decided to go on the offensive.  Mostly to spread the word of NMDRCs and Swanson et al.  I decided to target the Genetic Literacy Project, a bastion of Monsantohood.  If I could establish a beachhead there, who knew what might follow?

The first post I landed on seemed to be undefended.  The second, a job on Mother Jones, I got some return fire but remained bogged down in a fairly boring fight over pesticide-testing for safety.  The third post, yet another hack job on Vani Hari aka Food Babe (if she was so hopeless, wouldn’t one have been enough?) brought plenty of action.  After skirmishes in which one Jackson, Carl Graver and others were involved, GLP brought up the heavy artillery and…well, why not see it verbatim?

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Jon Entine Mod Derek Bickerton • 20 hours ago

Derek, Glad you are engaging in this discussion. One note about the above post. You need to do a bit of research on Vandenberg and the journal she has published in. Vandenberg has a well known reputation as a junk science purveyor, despite her pedigree. She is not a scientist but a social science researcher who has part of an "inside group" of campaigning academics who decided--literally--independent of the vast literature on bisphenol A and "endocrine disruption" that almost every chemical was an ED and therefore "dangerous". Again, she's not a scientist. But she has aligned herself with Vom Saal and others with the same ideological convictions, convinced that the US EPA, the European Union, the Canadian Health Organizations, the European Food Safety Authority and the Australian oversight agencies, among others (including in Asia) are involved in a worldwide conspiracy to suppress the "fact" that a host of chemicals deemed safe as used, including BPA and glyphosate, carry "hidden" dangers. Their work has been reviewed and dismissed by every major regulatory agency. So citing her, or her science colleagues, as "authorities" may satisfy a desire to cherry pick opinions favorable to your ideological views, it's not science--it's activist social science--the very definition of junk science. Glyphosate is emphatically not an ED, except in vitro, which means that almost ANY chemical is an ED. It is no more of an ED than is salt. You would elevate the quality of your posts if you actually adhered to mainstream science views. As in the case of the climate change or vaccine safety debates, one can always find SOME scientist or more often a social scientist to support a pre-cooked ideology. But science adheres to no personal opinions. It's about: (1) empirical evidence, and (2) reproducibility of studies. The glyphosate=ED hypothesis fails on both grounds. Junk science.

So I fired the following counter-barrage:

Derek Bickerton 17 hours ago

Jon, ditto--an opponent worthy of my steel! But wait a minute now.

 "You need to do a bit of research on Vandenberg"

I did. "B.S., Cornell University, 2003; Ph.D., Tufts University School of Medicine, 2007; Postdoctoral Fellow & Research Associate, The Forsyth Institute Center for Regenerative & Developmental Biology and Harvard University School of Dental Medicine, 2007-2008; Postdoctoral Fellow, Tufts University, Department of Biology and Center for Regenerative & Developmental Biology, 2008-2013." And she works at UMass. Her major academic sin seems to be disagreeing with you.

"and the journal she has published in"

I did that too. “Endocrine Reviews has the highest Impact Factor ranking of the 89 journals in the ISI category of endocrinology and metabolism. Of the total 5,684 surveyed by ISI, EDRV's Impact Factor ranking is #20.” (source: ResearchGate, but you can also consult the original ISIlists.)

"You would elevate the quality of your posts if you actually adhered to mainstream science views."

You mean like WHO reports?  Bergman,A., Heindel, J.J., Jobling, S., Kidd, K.A. and R. Zoeller, T. (eds.), 2013.State of the science of endocrine disrupting chemicals 2012, United Nations Environment Programme and the World Health Organization, ISBN: 978-92-807-3274-0 (UNEP) and 978 92 4 150503 1 (WHO) (NLM classification: WK 102)

or like UC Davis reports?  Janie F. Shelton, Estella M. Geraghty, Daniel J.
Tancredi, Lora D. Delwiche, Rebecca J. Schmidt, Beate Ritz, Robin L. Hansen, and Irva Hertz-Picciotto (2014) Neurodevelopmental Disorders and Prenatal Residential Proximity to Agricultural Pesticides: The CHARGE Study. Environ Health Perspect;DOI:10.1289/ehp.1307044

I'm sorry, Jon. What you guys haven't realized is that science moves on. New things come in and at first from the very nature of things they're not mainstream--how could they be? (I wish I could remember the Five Stages of Acceptance, starting with "That's absolutely preposterous" and finishing with "I've always thought that!") Well, believe me, I'm not cherry-picking--science is moving on, but it's not moving in your direction. I know you'll deny this.  Just wait a while. And I promise not to say "I told you so".

PS: Just nailed the Stages of Acceptance (4, not 5, btw):
“The four stages of acceptance:
1. This is worthless nonsense.
2. This is an interesting, but perverse, point of view.
3. This is true, but quite unimportant.
4. I always said so."
Author? J.B.S. Haldane (icon of Science).

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And do you know what?  Since then, Jon has not returned a single shot!

Unsafe at Any Dose?

In this post we'll see why we no longer have to take any notice of claims that GMO crops and herbicides are not causing us harm.  But first, let me put this in the context of this blog's major goal: to explain the importance of Swanson et al. and to defend it against its critics (for reference see below).

Yes, it’s high time to up-armor for the coming fight.  Ripples are already spreading across the blogosphere, but so far the only counterargument I’ve seen that went beyond the hoary old “bad journal”, “bad credentials” Monsantoite b.s. was that the authors should have separated different areas of America for statistical purposes. That’s because, if they were right, surely there should be more chronic diseases where there was heavy spraying and less where there was little or none.

 

GMO advocates never tire of repeating the mantra “The poison is the dose”—even things you eat unthinkingly every day, like table salt, can poison or even kill you if you eat too much.  Just the other day, a comment by Chris Preston on a post on the Biofortified page (http://www.biofortified.org/2015/01/medical-doctors-weigh-in-on-glyphosate-claims/#comment-1340450)  claimed “Toxicity always depends on the dose. Regulators address whether a product can be used in such a way that the dose received is below a level which may result in toxicity.”  In technical terms, all substances with toxic potential are monotonic—their toxicity may be zero at very low doses, but increases proportionately with the size of dose.

This looks like a general law, not just one for toxic substances. Surely the more you consume of anything, the greater the effect?  The more food you eat, the fatter you get.   The more alcohol you drink, the drunker you get.  Your common sense and your senses tell you that.  They also tell you that the sun goes round the earth (not vice versa), that continents can’t creep around the globe (they’re solid, lifeless rock, goddammit!), that we couldn’t possibly be kissing cousins to chimps.  But if our senses and our common sense told us how things REALLY worked, there wouldn’t be much need for science, would there?  What science does is prove that the counterintuitive thing is all too often the truth, and I haven’t even mentioned quantum mechanics.

While we’re talking about science, let me emphasize one of the most important things about it.  It moves on.  It’s always moving on.   It’s not like religion, where you must believe exactly what people believed hundreds or even thousands of years ago, or else be branded as a heretic.  If you truly believe in science, you must always be ready to change, because science is always changing, and once it’s changed, what was science yesterday isn’t science any more.  “The poison is the dose” is a case in point.

The assumption behind “The poison is the dose” is that damage from any toxic substances can be avoided if you simply make sure that people don’t get too much of it.  And the mechanics of that seem straightforward enough.  There’s a nice summary at http://www.animalresearch.info/en/drug-development/safety-testing/):  “New medicines or chemicals which may affect the health of humans are required by law to be tested on animals…Safety tests begin with acute toxicity testing, where the animals are given a single dose of the test compound. The aim of the tests is to determine the range between the dose that causes no adverse effect and the dose that is life-threatening.”

 Alas for that.  According to Vandenberg et al. (“Bisphenol-A and the Great Divide: A Review of Controversies in the Field of Endocrine Disruption” Endocrine Reviews 30.1. 75–95, 2009), “a safe dose determined from high doses does not guarantee safety at lower, untested doses that may be closer to current human exposures.”

Why not?  It’s because for any toxic substance you can plot a response curve, with a strong effect at or near the top of the curve and a weak or null effect at the bottom.  And there is not just one possible curve--here's a sample of several:

  

Note that in all the figures, low-dose is to the left of the graph, high-dose to the right. The left-hand A and B graphs are the kinds of curve once thought to be universal (and still are by pro-GMOers).  The right-hand C curve—the U-shaped curve—is very different, and probably the hardest one for GMO supporters to deal with.

That’s because of the mode of testing described above—start high, work down until effects aren’t apparent, leave what you think is a wide enough margin and announce a safe dose.  In other words, you plot only the right-hand side of the U-curve.  There’s no way you could find that, at still lower levels, harmful effects could begin again (left-hand side of the graph).  But that's exactly what the graph means.  It means that if a toxic substance has a U-curve but you like a good Monsantoite assume it's monotonic, it may very well have serious consequences that you literally cannot know about till after they've happened.

By now I’m sure GMO defenders will be saying. “Well, what’s the so-called scientific evidence for all this?  Some rubbish published in a pay-for-play journal with a 0.something impact factor, I’ll bet.”  Well, sorry, guys.  “Endocrine Reviews has the highest Impact Factor ranking of the 89 journals in the ISI category of endocrinology and metabolism. Of the total 5,684 surveyed by ISI, EDRV's Impact Factor ranking is #20.”  (source: ResearchGate, but you can also consult the original ISI lists.) The journal’s impact factor is 19.36, and the paper itself has been cited in 537 other journal articles and books.  We’re not talking junk science now; we’re talking Gold Standard in Endocrinology.

Move on another three years, and the same journal publishes “Hormones and Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals: Low-Dose Effects and Nonmonotonic Dose Responses” (Vandenberg et al., Endocrine Reviews 33.3. 378-455 (2012)).   This is right in our ball-park because it specifically includes glyphosate in its list of non-monotonic dose-response curve substances that cause substantive harm:

Chemicals by chemical class      Nonmonotonic effect                       Cell type

Glyphosate-based herbicide        Cell death, aromatase activity       HepG2 liver

(Round-Up)                                 ERβ activity                                   cells

Note that this paper has 564 citations, even better than the previous one, especially since they cover only a two-year period.  It includes nearly 850 citations of supporting work.

Fallback position for GMOers:  “This stuff’s very controversial, you’re cherry-picking data, good science says the opposite”.  Well, six years ago (quite a while in science at nowadays speeds) Laura Vandenberg wrote:  “Although scientific inquiry is a dynamic give-and-take among researchers with different opinions and viewpoints, the so-called controversies surrounding low-dose effects and NMDR curves should be put to rest, given that they now affect public health decisions [My italics, DB].  These phenomena have been demonstrated time and again for a sufficient number of endocrine-related endpoints, and they no longer merit being considered ‘controversial’ topics.”  In other words, this is the new orthodoxy in toxicology.

So what has all this got to do with Swanson et al.?  Well, first and foremost, it gets them off the “why no data by area” hook.  If glyphosate has a low-dose effect, then there is no reason to expect people in high-spraying areas to have more chronic diseases, and therefore no point in separating data from different states or regions.  

But the work on response curves goes much further than that.  As Vandenberg et al. point out at the end of their 2012 paper, “The concept of nonmonotonicity is an essential one for the field of environmental health science because when NMDRCs occur, the effects of low doses cannot be predicted by the effects observed at high doses.”  This means that when GMO advocates tell us that low doses of glyphosate are harmless, their claims no longer have any valid scientific evidence.  To the contrary, the knowledge that glyphosate is non-monotonic and an endocrine disruptor makes it all the more probable that it does cause substantive harm.   What’s the next step towards proving this?  Well, how did people first find evidence that tobacco caused lung cancer?  Through epidemiological studies and correlations!

 

The tobacco comparison is a story that deserves its own post, and will get it.  For now, it’s sufficient to note that this is the importance of Swanson et al.  Through epidemiology, the paper builds a prima facie case for supposing that glyphosate could indeed cause the rise of certain chronic disease conditions in America.  Given that we now know what toxicology can and can’t prove, Swanson et al.’s claims can no longer be dismissed with blanket denials--they must be further investigated.  And however that investigation turns out, we’ll still be able to tell GMO defenders that their claims of pesticide safety aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

Reference:  “Genetically engineered crops, glyphosate and the deterioration of health in the United States of America” by Nancy L. Swanson, Andre Leu, Jon Abrahamson and Bradley Wallet,  Journal of Organic Systems, 9(2), 2014 (http://www.organic-systems.org/journal/92/JOS_Volume-9_Number-2_Nov_2014-Swanson-et-al.pdf).